positivismo não é otimismo
Postado em July 24, 2007
Categoria opinião | 573 comentários
Mariana, mademoiselle, a priori, obrigado pelo “pessoa muito culta” etc, etc. Voltando ao tema que discutíamos ontem, deixe que eu esclareça uma coisa: no fundo, intimamente, eu sou um positivista (olá, sr. Comte); tenho ciência de que um objetivo pode ser alcançado quando agimos com perseverança, essas coisas (vide o fato de eu trabalhar e estudar, o que para minha alma de dândi é o fim). O que ocorre é que esse tipo de raciocínio não cabe à literatura, e aqui eu excluo todo e qualquer tipo de livrinho escrito (ou montado, como o “fenômeno” borra-calças O Segredo) com o único fim de, oportunamente, angariar lucro com o atual estado de angústia e carência de quase toda a população mundial. A história passa atualmente por uma etapa na qual auto-estima é conto da carochinha, e eu não posso concordar que “ser otimista” e toda essa lengalenga vá ser capaz de resolver algo. Se devo pensar positivamente, faço-o comigo sem precisar transferir esse peso brega para as letras. O papel da literatura (e é isso que debatíamos) não é ficar dando empurrãozinhos nas suas costas como quem diz “vai, você consegue”, mas, antes, mostrar, exprimir, exteriorizar as falhas, os pecados, as incapacidades e toda a sordidez que todos tentam ocultar. E como bem me lembrou Donato sobre o que disse o senhor Valéry, a fim de contas, “os otimistas escrevem mal”.
Eu sou otimista.
Acho que pessimismo não costuma ser bom se não vier acompanhado de amargura e compostura. Acho que é a amargura que dá qualidade aos pessimistas, não o pessimismo em si: “Esse mundo de bosta que não vai pra frente nunca, que merda!!!!111″, escreveria um pessimista sem compostura.
E há bons otimistas, claro. Thomas Mann era otimista, ou soava otimista, no único livro que li dele (Sua Alteza Real, um dos melhores livros da minha vida). Tudo lindo, mesmo o Klaus Heinrich, que tinha uma mão defeituosa. Procure a tradução da Lia Luft (por incrível que pareça, é excelente).
Se você não ler, jamais será perdoado por mim.
É verdade que Thomas Mann deixa transparecer em seus livros um romantismo de paisagem que soa otimista; mas é estranho tomarmos essa hipótese como verdadeira se pensarmos que Thomas viveu sob perseguição nazista. Eu não conseguiria ser otimista em tais circunstâncias.
Ué, ele viveu sob perseguição nazista. Se ele se tivesse matado por isso, aí sim seria pessimista. Alías, o otimismo aparece mais em momentos tristes e tal, porque é quando se percebe que as coisas podem melhorar.
Verdade verdadinha, mas o que eu disse foi: Eu não conseguiria ser otimista em tais circunstâncias.
Grande Thomas.
Estamos discutindo por nada, então. E, rapaz, só agora vi que eu não tinha um link pra você no meu blog, ó que absurdo. Problema corrigido.
‘magine.
De Thomas Mann tive tempo de ler “Doutor Fausto”, quatro partes da “Montanha Mágica” e um conto chamado “A Lei”. Ele só é otimista com uma coisa: a própria obra. Principalmente em “Doutor Fausto”.
Nao posso ler o post por que estou na lan nesse momento. :(
Saudadona doce minino…
como anda a Patty?
Manda um abraçao para o povo ae…
bjo amigo do Poney (q meleca de teclado…. grr)
Saudade também, amiga. A Patty tá tonta como sempre. Te liguei em sua casa ontem, mas deve ser lógico que você já não estava lá, né?
Abraço. Bon voyage.
Com certeza o pessimismo é mais reflexivo do que o otimismo. Ele questiona as possibilidades que não existem. Mas, ao contrário de você, não considero o otimismo uma coisa brega.
Não digo que só vejo as situações de forma favorável. Nunca! Seria hipocrisia da minha parte dizer que sim. Entretanto, prefiro acreditar que tudo é melhor do que realmente é. Essa é uma opção exclusivamente minha!
Não temos o mesmo estilo. Talvez esse seja o motivo de tanta discrepância. Viva a diferença, amigo!
“a priori”, pq?
A frase de Valéry, evidentemente, é um chiste. Houve muitos bons escritores que manifestaram um certo otimismo, mas não o otimismo ingênuo da auto-ajuda. E, no limite, o pessimista, o pessimista legítimo, nada escreve.
Evidentemente, Donato. Falei à Mariana sobre o chiste ontem, mas creio não ter sido compreendido.
Que discussão instigante!
Como já disse a ambos, a melancolia me encanta. E concordo com o Ed, os pessimistas escrevem bem melhor. Acredito que, ao exteriorizarmos aquilo que há de mais sórdido em nossa existência, nos aproximamos daquilo que existe de melhor em nós, e de Deus. Um nobre paradoxo.
Não que os otimistas em geral escrevam mal, mas normalmente é tudo sempre um “empurranzinho” do tipo “você pode se acreditar”, e confesso, tal literatura zomba da inteligência do ser humano. A propósito, alguém já leu Antonio Roberto? (Credo!)
“Essa eneeergia, eu queeero muuuito maaais…”
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